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Why I discourage marriage a lot?

Well there are many reason. However, perhaps one story should illustrate my point.

One day I was reading an anti polygamy forum. I am not advocating polygamy as I detest all marriage, but I read anyway out of curiosity.

One guy blurted. We got to prohibit polygamy. In my neighbor there is still one male that doesn’t have a wife yet.

My first reaction is, so what?

So what if some guys doesn’t get laid? Yea that’s sad, but that’s his problem. Not mine. If I am rich I want to bang a lot. If I am poor, I don’t need any women.

Also if some guy don’t get laid, maybe something is wrong with him. Maybe he’s not rich yet. May be he’s not attractive enough yet. Why not let the women decide.

So what if some guy don’t get laid?

Well here is what.

The vote for that guy dictate your marital terms.

So you see. Marriage is not about what’s best for you. So many people say that marital terms are made to protect women, or protect men. No. Marital terms are there to protect that one guy that doesn’t get laid yet.

That’s the reason why we have monogamy. That’s the reason why alimony laws are financially devastating for the rich. It’s not for the men obviously. It’s not for the women either.

Many women would rather share a rich smart men than be the only one for the poor. I, as a man, would rather share a smart beautiful girl rather than be the only one for the ugly.

It’s for that one shagless guy that don’t get laid yet.

In muslim countries sex outside marriage is prohibited. So what?

Getting married doesn’t seem to be such a hassle. Yea just get married. Here’s the thing.

The interest of those in power decides marital terms.

You see why all the hatred? They want to impose their interests to you. It’s that simple. Obviously one of those interests are rationing women to them. All under non sense pretext of God’s will or even women’s interest.

Here is what max out women’s interest. Let them choose. Duh…

That’s how I hate marriage.

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Politically Correct Answers

Why American spend more money on poor american kids than poor african kids? They’re both not their kids right?
PC answers: Far from the eye, far from the heart.
More reasonable answer: African kids can’t vote for congress.

Why prostitution is illegal in muslim countries while rape requires 4 witnesses?
PC answers: Because prostitution is immoral. Also we need to be absolutely sure before condemning people.
More reasonable answer: Because males don’t care about women’s freedom. They care about whether they get the women or not. Prohibition of prostitution takes away rich paying males out of mating market.

Why war is more acceptable than death penalty?
PC answers: Because war is necessary and death penalty is not.
More reasonable answer: Because people don’t care whether you’re guilty or not. They care that they’re not you. Also quite often, people fear and respect the cruel. Capitalists in Lebanon can’t influence decisions on Israel’s parliament. Hezbollah can.

Why religious bigots kill heretics?
PC answers: Because it’s wrong to be heretics.
More reasonable answer: Because heretics are always miraculously weaker minority. Because heretics undermine power of whoever interpret religion.

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Why People Want Religion

In ancient time, brahmana and ksatriya are the highest caste. However, they’re not very productive. Brahmana are simply religious leaders. Ksatriya are simply murderer.

The way is the same with everyone else. In Europe, knight and monks are highly respected. Rashidun Chalipate’s main income comes from looting neighboring countries. It lasts only 30 years before being replaced by a tyrant that slaughter Muhammad’s descendants. In ancient time, most countries, including muslim countries, are simply aggressive nations earning money through military campaign.

Yes they can be productive if they kill bad guys, but what happen when there are no bad guy left? What happen when the majority of the world are more interested in reaching prosperity rather than killing each other?

Those 2 will be useless.

Now, the greatest among us are those providing the best service to the most customer. Even porn stars and prostitutes are more respected than thugs or religious leaders.

So is it strange that religious leaders, and thugs, want to go back to the system that worked thousands of years ago?

Obviously they wouldn’t tell the people that they do it because they want to fill their coffer. That’s not sexy. If humans’ interests are the motives, religion is the ads. We don’t expect cigarette ads come and show, “Marlboro, contains only 5% nicotine, very addictive.” Eliminating religion is like insisting that all ads will be like that. Obviously it wouldn’t work.

And what about the people? Why would they select that kind of leaders?

Let’s face it. Most humans are not sexy. Recently, google build driverless cars. Under free fair competition, most people are just obsolete. No, I am not saying that crossbows are obsolete. I am saying that those who can only use crossbows are obsolete. Most people cannot compete with what the best and brightest can offer under free market. That’s just fact.

Say you oppose free sex. Say you said to the world, guys, we should prohibit free sex. If people are free to choose, and if all choices are seen, they won’t choose us. That’s not sexy isn’t it?

Of course they used religion. Alternatively they can say that porn cause rape, and we can see that it’s not true. Alternatively they can argue so much about how sex outside marriage demean women, but then we would recognize that as vague.

It only takes one country to try liberating their market, along with commercialized sex, and all sexiest most productive people will go there.

Their best strategy, from their point of view, is simply religion. For many reasons, people hate freedom. When all of us are free to choose, we don’t choose them.

Even when religions are gone, many would still opposes free sex. However, they can no longer come up with unverifiable excuses like that.

In fact, I seriously doubt atheism will bring peace. I saw that humans’ nature has very strong zero sum game component. It’s as if we are genetically predestined to trick and kill each other. Religions are not anomaly. It’s just the norm as we have seen from the last thousands of years.

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Perhaps Islam is Not The Greatest Problem, Creative Accounting Is

Again and again terrorists claim that 80% of Indonesian population is muslim. Islam considers Ahmadiyah a heretic. Hence, terrorists claim that they are justified to terrorize Ahmadiyah people.

Fine. Every country has a group of people they don’t like. Why don’t we create a referendum and see if 2/3 rd of Indonesians want Ahmadiyah kicked out. If indeed that’s the case, we’ll give Ahmadiyah 10 years to say find asylums. I too will start finding asylum if 2/3 of Indonesians think they should kick people out for having a different opinion.

Islam or not, religions or not, let the people choose. This is democracy. Let’s have that referendum. Let’s see how popular those terrorists are. I think there are more Indonesians that want to get rid those terrorists than those wanting to get rid Ahmadiyah. But I may be wrong. So let’s find out.

By saying that there are 80% muslims in Indonesia and islam consider Ahmadiyah’s heretics, terrorists are doing creative accounting. They essentially want to suggest that 80% of Indonesians agree with them.

Here is how the creative accounting works. People have big difference of opinions. It’s just fact. Any major religions that gain a lot of market share must be “flexible.”

You can’t have it both way.

If Islam has a very narrow doctrine the way the terrorists want us to believe, most indonesians are simply non muslim. That means terrorists shouldn’t count the kejawen, the jamaah islam liberal, Gus Dur’s followers, the “islam KTP”, etc as muslims. which is simply the majority of muslims in Indonesia. By the way, why not let all those people have their true beliefs show up in their KTP anyway?

If Islam has wide doctrine, then it’s simply the fact that the majority of indonesians, muslim or not, do not agree with those terrorists.

No matter how you compute it, the number of people that want to exterminate those Ahmadiyah should be the same.

Terrorists’ creative accounting happens on how they define islam. In counting the number of muslims, terrorists use the “wide” definition. However in defining what those muslim want, they use the “narrow” definition of islam, namely their own.

Well, are we going to let a small minority of terrorists decide our political stance or are we going to choose for our self, what we think is best for this country.

Only 30% of Germany are Nazis. Yet that small group of facists finally manages to take over the country and bring world war to the whole world in the name of all German people.

Perhaps the greatest irony of all those failed ideology is that in a sense they are successful. Communism and Nazim fail to deliver result for the people they lead and the world in general. Yet, unfortunately they are successful at one thing. They’re successful to rule, at everyone’s else expense. And that’s what the terrorists truly want. They want to rule and enslave us at everyone’s expense. They want to screw everyone on our name. They’ll fail to deliver result except to themselves.

Now those facists have a new flag. The used islam to justify their facism. Are we going to let them? Let’s fine out in a referendum.

Arguments are often futile against deluded people. Let’s settle this once and for all in an obvious way. Get a referendum. Let those that want to kick people out donate money for the costs.

I seriously doubt those terrorists can get get 2/3 rd of votes though. Maybe in some province but not the whole Indonesia.

You see, there is a reason why Osama bin Laden hate democracy. Somehow he knows that his idea is not going to win votes. There is a reason why most tyrants that govern muslim countries restrict freedom of speech. Somehow they know that freedom of information is not in their favor. They just don’t want their people to know.

The way we evolve we either compete or fight and occasionally cooperate. Still life has a lot of zero sum aspects. Hence people have different of opinions when it comes to ideology. They have different interests. Those differences of opinions don’t vary as much across all societies.

It varies more between people within a society more than between societies. That’s why democratic countries are sort of alike to each other. They have the same median and the opinion of that median don’t change much. The median rules in democratic countries due to median vote theorem if you want to get technical.

In one spectrum capitalists and libertarian wants free competition all the way. In other spectrum, some people want everything decided by political power. Terrorists are obviously on this end of the spectrum.

Most people, however, realize that free competition brings awesome results, but politic is inevitable. So most people are somewhat moderates.

Let’s examine the statement that 80% of Indonesians are muslims and islam consider ahmadiyah as heretic. How many Indonesians, including muslims do you think will think that being heretic means they worth kicking out?

Most of us do not want to be led by dictators. Most of us just want to increase our GDP rather than wasting our time over every petty difference. What’s the point of being a democratic country if we have to agree with terrorists first before we vote?

We know that countries that restrict freedom of opinion will end up to being led by tyrants. From communism, to Nazim, to Rashidun Chaliphate that the terrorist speak so highly, to contemporary Saudi, all have one common trait, they are all end up being led by a tyrant. That tyrant then simply use their power to oppress the people for their own gain.

Rashidun Chaliphate, a country so spoken highly by supporters of Sharia law, is finally ruled by Yasid that massacred and enslaved virtually all Muhammad’s descendants. The majority of muslim simply pledged their loyalty to Yasid though, out of fear. The one that doesn’t, Hussain, is slaughtered.

Yasid himself is a drunkard tyrant that likes to do orgies. Just like contemporary Saudi’s princes, according to wikileak. Just check http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/07/wikileaks-cables-saudi-princes-parties .

Yea, we got wikileak now, unlike 3000-1400 years ago, by the way. Let’s just say the gap between perception and reality, which is often the whole profit margins of politicians, are simply getting less and less.

Warriors and bullshitters should simply accept that their share in information age is going to get lesser and lesser. That’s the true motives behind those terrorists. They want to rule us with iron fist. They want to prohibit difference of opinions so they can force us so they can kill and oppress others in our name. They want to prohibit freedom of information so they can lie to us. They just can’t accept that their days are gone, long gone. This is information age. You can’t deceive and force people as easily now as it used to be.

You can check all these in wikipedia. Yasid’s dad, Muamiyah, that inherited the kingdom to Yasid, used Islam to pursue his own end. When he’s about to lose, he’ll put quran on tip of his soldiers’ spears so things are settled through mediation. Just like terrorists use Islam to avoid our wrath. After that, he indirectly, through his son that he chose to replace him, slaughter Muhammad’s descendant.

Is this the kind of leader Indonesians want? Muslim or not, do we want to be ruled by this type of people?

That’s the true face of terrorism and power. That’s what will happen if we restrict freedom of opinion. If we restrict freedom of opinions, we will all be lead by tyrants like Yasid. I know fully well that many of our politicians want to be like Yasid. We are a very corrupt country and our religious ministry is one of the most corrupt departments. Do we want to keep letting them?

Again and again fascist ideologies fail to deliver. Again and again we hear ad hoc assumption on how it’s the leader, and not the ideology that’s wrong. However stupidity and blind faith among the population is the one that make that kind of people to be leaders.

Fine, get something working then. Dubai is an islamic country too. If those terrorists practice their beating in Dubai, I bet they’ve been hanging by now. In any case, it simply makes sense to follow something successful now than something messed up right?

How many of our citizens want our country to be more like Taliban? C’mon. You like leaving in caves? Free market has improved our percapita income 4 times in mere 8 years. Free market works. Talibanism doesn’t.

This is a real world. Theories won’t cut it. They’re wrong, but arguments will lead to nowhere. Just see results. Dubai, US, or Taliban? What kind of country we want to be? If we’re not on the cutting edge of civilization, which we aren’t, it’s best to just follow those who are.

We are Asians. The japs say, why bother inventing. Just copy. That’s what we as Asians do. Why bother arguing for the best ideology. Just see whichever ideology bring prosperity to its people, and then copy. Simple?

Yes, islam can be one of the best ideology 1400 years ago. The key word here is 1400 y ears ago. Saying that it’s the way to go now is like saying intel 8086 is the best CPU ever.

Most of us, favor freedom or religion. Freedom of religion at least means freedom to choose religions. Only heretics and apostates ever choose their religion. If even that’s not allowed, what’s the meaning of our freedom of religion?

Because we didn’t have freedom of religions, our ancestors fought among themselves over petty doctrines. Because they follow blind faith rather than reason, they can’t reason out their differences. Then the dutch easily control and govern us. So why repeat the same mistake our ancestors make?

Let’s use our democracy for any significantly controversial issue. At the end, the true problem is not muslim vs non muslim. The true issue is whether we agree or want to be governed by those terrorists or not. I don’t. Do you? Well, get us that referendum and we’ll find that out.

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Things That Western Civilization Can Do Against Threat of Islam

Western countries tend to have rules favoring oppressed people in immigration. Oppressive countries are usually poor. Many people, currently, want to emigrate to western world. Even if they earn the same amount of money in their own country, many people are fed up with injustice they fear all the time.

So why not accept oppressed people from Islamic countries? There are many people that want to convert their religion but cannot. There are women that want to be porn stars. Why not accept them all? Jews accept Druze and those Druzes fight well on Israel sides. Why not accept Ahmadiyah members?

Those who are brave enough to face prosecution are most likely smarter than the rest anyway. It’s just fact that the oppressed people are usually the one more productive and less violent.

Another thing is why give citizenship away for free just because some people already lived for many years? Citizenship is like a club. If people want to join, it has a value. Just say, ah you want citizenship, well, our executive club price is $100 k, for example. Here, Dubai system is better I must admit.

That way, only people that really like the way things are, rather than those just wanting to join, will join.

As usual, all social problems in the world, is a form of market distortion.

Of course, western civilization has plenty of it’s own share of bigotry. Tax is bigotry against the productive, for example. Often muslim countries have lower tax and many would consider that a lesser evil. So I wouldn’t expect all the smart people to go to western civilization. However, each people should hang out with systems they like. Let’s see which one will produce more wealth. Let all countries compete for sources of productivity and justice will pop out by itself.

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Are Muslim Countries 100 Years Behind

[quote=zingo;1063150]Iran woman with stoning sentence shown on state TV – Yahoo! News

No wonder these cavemen are are so hard to deal with, they are about 100 yrs behind civilized society.[/quote]

More like 10 years behind, if you compare Indonesia to US. We’re catching up to you. Don’t worry. The Japs are already ahead of you. They’re not Muslim, but not west either. We keep running and catch up each other okay?

Speaking of marriage. It seems to me there are several ideas on what the best consensual sex relationship should be.
There is bdsm where you also beat up your mate
There is extremist muslim marriage where you beat your wife
There is moderate muslim marriage where you don’t beat your wife.
There is old testament marriage where you stoned your wife to death for cheating on you and that she’ll fuck your brother if you’re death (maybe this one should be illegal)
There is western marriage, where you keep paying your wife after she rides someone else cocks’ and are responsible for her bastard child (another unconscionable nonsense)
There is my marriage, where I keep persuading my wife to be more “active” while she keep getting mad at me.
There is free sex, where girls are doing it for free.
There is polygamy.
There is monogamy.
There is orgy.
There is polyandry.
There is group marriage.
There is prostitution, where you pay to get laid
There is contract marriage.
There is concubinage.
There is cohabitation contract.
There is abstinance
There is suicide hara kiri mutual.
There is welfare marriage, where they expect government to pay up for all the kids made (the only one I think should be illegal)

I would say the issue is not which one is right. The issue is why does it have to be government deciding which one is best?

If government can prohibit some, for example, then it’s easy to see how government can effectively force some. Just prohibits all popular alternatives.

Why not keep everything legal, and let the market decide who decide which?

As for women getting stoned, or males paying alimony for life. Would they agree to it if alternatives were legal? I don’t think so. If they do, well, they agreed right. However, it’s stupid to say they agree where virtually all alternatives are illegal.

In Taliban, for example, the only alternative for women besides marriage is begging or starving. That’s effectively forced marriage.

In US, prostitution is illegal.The alternatives for hot cunts are not that hot either. Abstinence, free sex, or be engineers and compete with males (usually becoming an old virgin hag in the process because Bosses can’t solicit sex). Monogamy means it’ll be more difficult for girls to aim for males far richer than her, which could be what she really wants. Life long alimonies means most males with decent income won’t even bother getting married. There goes the most productive members of our society into extinction.

Here in my country, the only way a girl will work for me is if she’s hot, and allow me to grab her all over. We don’t have stupid anti discrimination laws like US. Doesn’t like that? Go work somewhere else.

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Are the Rich Less Generous

The problem is not people are less generous. People are MORE generous now than they are thousands of years ago. In ancient time, the poor got only 2% of money in Muslim countries.

Now we pay 30% income tax most of which goes into wealth redistribution. What else, given that the market can provide far superior service more efficiently anyway. So we are 15 times more generous.

World GDP is 300 times it was 200 years ago. Human race is 300 times richer.

If we have the same number of fuck ups now than we have 200 years ago, non of those fuck ups will be “poor” by 1800 standard.

So what’s the problem?

The problem is the fuck ups, irresponsible, lazy, stupid, socialists bigots out breed the prudent, smart, diligent and hard working. The problem is we got smart people like HaRRo that are too willing to sacrifice himself in altar of socialism to fed the parasites. Sorry HaRRo. We got to repent.

Anyone opposing freedom want to enslave others. Yielding to their kind is like cutting our own hand throwing it to lions hoping the lions will become vegetarian. If anything, the lions will just breed and breed and kill us.

If you run the fastest you simply have to show that you too can hit the hardest.

I love poor people. Many of them work hard for me and we both make a lot of money. None of those that work hard for me work as hard as me though. But well, we’re getting somewhere.

It’s the mindset that’s wrong. We encourage the poor to breed by subsidizing those that make kids. When subsidy is given, supply and demand curve no longer meet creating surplus of humans, causing unemployment giving rise to more justification for bigger government in never ending vicious poverty cycle.

Just pay anyone that don’t have kids and legalize commercial sex so the best brightest richest (like our mods) can knock up all the hot babes. Then encourage porn so no ugly women get laid. Hell those ugly feminists can always enjoy their right becoming astronauts, programmers, scientists, or some grenade thrower in the front line anyway. I totally support affirmative action for all womyn that want to throw grenade in the front line, if they’re ugly.

Within 1 generation, all kids will have rich smart dad and hot sexy mom. No need to resort to violent to “exterminate” those we deem inferior.

But even those benign peaceful method is politically incorrect. We’re like gladiator being forced to kill each other by our leaders with their irrational faith based “morality”.

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Some Confusion

http://www.brandeis.edu/projects/fse/Pages/traffickingdebate.html

What I mean by trafficking is consensual trafficking. But as you see from the debate above, some feminists insist that trafficking are made illegal despite consent.

My understanding is that ugly feminists simply do not want to compete with cheaper (and often prettier) women from poorer countries. Moreover, poor males do not want their prettiest girls move to richer countries. It’s like smuggling or immigration or globalization in general. Those who don’t sale don’t want to compete overseas.

It seems that trafficking means non consensual for many (while the consensual one is probably called immigration).

Also what I mean by marriage is state approved sexual relationship. The pattern I see in most countries is if the state approve, it’s called marriage, and if the state doesn’t it’s called “sin”. In muslim countries, for example, polygamy and contract marriage counts as marriage and their states approve that.

I believe no consensual sex should be “approved” more than the other. It’s shouldn’t be up to the state. It should be up to individuals. So if prostitution is taxed, so should marriage. If one is illegal so should the other and via versa. That’s what I mean by destroying marriage. Of course, a better phrase would be as Wendy said it, “Get government out of marriage.” No government in the world, west or east, is in this state as far as I know.

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