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Prostitution is prohibited under the pretext of maintaining “women’s dignity”. The truth is, prostitution is a very high paying job, not to mention one of the most enjoyable too. However, if prostitution is legal so will effectively polygamy, contract marriage, etc. The rich will just rent a lot and the rest don’t get any. That’s the real reason why prostitution is disallowed. It’s not because it’s a “too bad” job. It’s because it’s too good. Given choice, too many women would do it, too few will still want to get married.

Women trafficking are also very consensual. Women prefer the rich. It’s normal that women in poor countries want richer males in western countries. It’s not a bad decision. It’s the best possible decision anyone can make. It’s too obvious. Of course, that will be bad for women in western countries that do not like competition. So issues like “women dignity”, or “respecting women” are vague concept used to justify taking away women best choices.

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Do Christians believe that they cannot have sex outside civil marriage?

Under US laws, anyone agreeing to get civil marriage agree that:
1. He doesn’t have right to have sex with his wife. Marital rape is illegal. So it’s not part of the contract. Financial support is part of the contract though irrelevant of wife’s performance.
2. His wife has right to have sex with anyone else because that’s legal.
3. His wife can divorce him any time she wants. No fault divorce is the law now.
4. Should his wife produce children that’s not his, he is responsible to support that child.
5. Should his wife get a divorce and cohabit with other males, he still has to keep supporting that wife in life alimony.

That is the justification that government used to extort life time alimony and child support from suckers. Government main argument is, “Well, you agreed to all these when you get married.”

Do Christians really think that God want us to agree to all those terms before we can have sex?

Most christian believe that they have to get married before sex. Well there are many kind of marriage. Civil marriage, contract marriage, group marriage, sham marriage, secret marriage, and so on. All of which are significantly different than biblical marriage, with civil marriage possibly be the most different. Do Christians believe that they have to pick civil marriage out of all those different marriage? Why?

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How to Create More Jobs With Less Government

Due to lack of death penalty the world is not getting any saver.

Furthermore, lack of commitment toward market mechanism leave poverty and misery every where.

Poverty

The truth is it’s hard to blame even the bad guy because being good just doesn’t pay a lot. C’mon. We’re all sinners. All sin must be prohibited. We prohibit that through laws. So all of us break laws. Laws are there so we broke it. Hence all of us are criminals. So laws really are not on our side quite often.

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Why Consensual Acts are Prohibited

FDA prohibits unapproved drug

1. It’s bad drug. We agree.
2. They sucks but still fit the taste of some. Still let the market decide.
3. It’s there just to get rid competition from some possibly better and safer drugs. I strongly disagree.

Government prohibit buying cars from China
1. Chinese cars sucks. We agree.
2. They sucks but still fit the taste of some. Still let the market decide.
3. It’s there just to get rid competition from some possibly better and cheaper car offers. I strongly disagree.

Government prohibit asian foods citing health concern
1. Asian food sucks. We agree
2. It sucks but could fit the taste of some. So let the market decide.
3. It’s just pressure to get rid competition from some possibly better and tastier food. I strongly disagree.

Government prohibit prostitution, polygamy and contract marriage.
1. Prostitution sucks. We agree
2. Prostitution sucks but maybe good for some. Still let the market decice.
3. It’s just pressure to get rid competition from some possibly fairer and preferable contract. I strongly disagree.

What’s your position on all?

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Welcome to Indonesia, One of the Most Free Country in the World if You Know What You’re Doing

[quote=babylonian;1063911]Fuck, I’m moving there, pronto. Fuck this “girl power shit” in Western world.

“But if she cheat on me, I will crush her”
[/quote]

You’re very welcome.

Sex outside marriage is officially legal. However, people will talk about you and if you’re not rich, it can be an issue (as it should be).

For contract marriage, I think Indonesian government would demand $50k deposit just in case you have kids and latter left. I think that’s reasonable. Not like it’s proportional to your income.

I will ask my muslim friends to craft some marriage contract that you can both agree with before hand.

If you want to beat your wife up, you can mention that in the contract and see if she agree to it before marrying you.

I do not think it’s the default. Indonesian have anti domestic violence rules. But check out lawyers anyway and maybe we can push this into some form of consensually bdsm thingy.

No we don’t stone women. That’ll be murder under indonesian law and just grossly politically incorrect. Not to mention a gross waste of natural resources if the girl is pretty.

However, there is no law that will force you to support someone else’ kid either, which is the real issue right? Just do a blood test and show that the kid is not blonde enough, and you’re off finding some other hoes. Indonesian’s opinion about males having to pay adulterously created kid from someone else’ cocks are indeed 100 years behind the west.

Actually you’re free to find of some other hoes even if you’re married through contract marriage because contract marriage is not “recognized” by Indonesian law. It just makes you more acceptable to your surrounding. No need to change religion I guess. Check lawyer.

Adultery is “officially” illegal but only if your spouse reports to cops. Again, there are ways to get around that.

Again so many thing is officially illegal anyway. So what?

If you have money, it’s hard to go to jail in Indonesia for any reason. Just don’t get provocative when breaking the laws.

Remember what Jesus said. Do good. Store riches in heaven. So when you outlived your usefulness, you got friends.

The same way, if you do good to cops, armies, officials, which the bible itself claim to be heaven’s representative and are not too stingy, they’ll take care of you once you’re in trouble. They don’t want you to sing right? Killing you is politically costly. They’ll advice you what to do.

Hell if you have money you are free to do anything on any countries. In US the bar is way higher and not even that I suppose. That’s the problem.

One more thing. White male is in great demand by Indonesian women. My pretty cousin that earn $4k/month ended up with some white jerk that left her simply because that jobless white is, white. You bastard!!!!

But hei, I can’t complain against competition :) I am a libertarian.

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Are Muslim Countries 100 Years Behind

[quote=zingo;1063150]Iran woman with stoning sentence shown on state TV – Yahoo! News

No wonder these cavemen are are so hard to deal with, they are about 100 yrs behind civilized society.[/quote]

More like 10 years behind, if you compare Indonesia to US. We’re catching up to you. Don’t worry. The Japs are already ahead of you. They’re not Muslim, but not west either. We keep running and catch up each other okay?

Speaking of marriage. It seems to me there are several ideas on what the best consensual sex relationship should be.
There is bdsm where you also beat up your mate
There is extremist muslim marriage where you beat your wife
There is moderate muslim marriage where you don’t beat your wife.
There is old testament marriage where you stoned your wife to death for cheating on you and that she’ll fuck your brother if you’re death (maybe this one should be illegal)
There is western marriage, where you keep paying your wife after she rides someone else cocks’ and are responsible for her bastard child (another unconscionable nonsense)
There is my marriage, where I keep persuading my wife to be more “active” while she keep getting mad at me.
There is free sex, where girls are doing it for free.
There is polygamy.
There is monogamy.
There is orgy.
There is polyandry.
There is group marriage.
There is prostitution, where you pay to get laid
There is contract marriage.
There is concubinage.
There is cohabitation contract.
There is abstinance
There is suicide hara kiri mutual.
There is welfare marriage, where they expect government to pay up for all the kids made (the only one I think should be illegal)

I would say the issue is not which one is right. The issue is why does it have to be government deciding which one is best?

If government can prohibit some, for example, then it’s easy to see how government can effectively force some. Just prohibits all popular alternatives.

Why not keep everything legal, and let the market decide who decide which?

As for women getting stoned, or males paying alimony for life. Would they agree to it if alternatives were legal? I don’t think so. If they do, well, they agreed right. However, it’s stupid to say they agree where virtually all alternatives are illegal.

In Taliban, for example, the only alternative for women besides marriage is begging or starving. That’s effectively forced marriage.

In US, prostitution is illegal.The alternatives for hot cunts are not that hot either. Abstinence, free sex, or be engineers and compete with males (usually becoming an old virgin hag in the process because Bosses can’t solicit sex). Monogamy means it’ll be more difficult for girls to aim for males far richer than her, which could be what she really wants. Life long alimonies means most males with decent income won’t even bother getting married. There goes the most productive members of our society into extinction.

Here in my country, the only way a girl will work for me is if she’s hot, and allow me to grab her all over. We don’t have stupid anti discrimination laws like US. Doesn’t like that? Go work somewhere else.

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Google Money Tree vs Marriage

The issue is where do we draw the line? Google money tree does not explicitly commit fraud or force people. If they do, it wouldn’t be FTC they’re dealing with. More like DA with some jail term. What would libertarian think about it? Forcing people to disclose information about the deals like lemon laws? That doesn’t sound libertarian.

Also google money tree is not the only scheme with this issue.

For example, customers are not aware that they are paying $80/month. However, they “effectively” agree due to some twisted form of logic. The terms of paying $80 somewhere else that customers do not read.

Basically FTC stand, which is quite reasonable, is that when part of a deal is MATERIAL, it has to be in front and customers have to EXPLICITLY agree rather than just implicitly agree.

By precedence of google money tree, MATERIAL terms that can have adverse effect of a deal will have to be agreed upon EXPLICITLY rather than implicitly.

Well, the same way, did Beatty Chadwick explicitly agree to pay 2.5 million to his wife? Did many husband that are paying $3k/month alimony to ex wife that is already fucking someone else explicitly agree to this exit clause contract?

People promise to love each other in the marriage. Why not make the marriage vow to be more “comprehensive”. Why not include I agree to support the children of this woman no matter who the father is?

By agreeing to get married people IMPLICITLY agree to be bound by the law of marriage. The law of marriage, drafted by congress rather than marrying couple, based on interests of swing voters in a sense become some form of “contract”. Most people do not even read the contract. Most of us are indoctrinated not to even bother reading the detail of the law counting instead of love. Worse, all alternative are illegal or politically incorrect, especially those DIRECTLY competing with marriage, like prostitution, contract marriage, and polygamy.

It’s as if, societies and legislators WANT you to get married. Under libertarian societies, societies’ interest should mean absolutely NOTHING when it comes to consensual terms. Yet in sex, it’s significant.

Basically by prohibiting google money tree we fret over companies stealing $80 here and there, which I think is a healty experience for people to be careful. Getting screwed small time is a good thing for xp. Yet, we allow congressmen and politicians to lie. We allow government to spread unobjective facts about drugs.

We allow the army to encourage children to become soldiers without fully explaining of what can happen. In Iran, kids are told to run through land mines. Hell, and we thought MDMA is dangerous for minor ha?

We have very complicated laws that NO BODY can understand, and then blame the poor guy that broke it. Case Studies

In a sense the law is like a contract between us and society. A contract too long and too complicated no body is actually reading it.

Justice system in all countries are a mockery of common sense. In one hand we gives thieves burglars and robbers so many right that they often go free out of technicality just to make REALLY SURE we do not convict a single innocent. On the other hand, DA can effectively FORCE innocent people to confess with plea bargain. Obviously given that almost everything is a crime, a DA won’t have problem finding something as bargaining position for plea bargain. In US 90% of conviction is on plea bargain like Alford. Just look at here http://www.angelfire.com/stars4/justiceforkirstin/Kirstin_s_Story/kirstin_s_story.html as a sample. A DA can even bribe anyone to testify against you and that’s legal. Beyond reasonable doubt ha? Well, only if you have OJ’s lawyer.

In my country, don’t ask. Money talk.

The idea of justice in US is DA think he should punish you for rejecting plea bargain. The same way in Indonesia, DA would want to punish you for not paying him. What’s the difference? Both is not about whether you’re guilty or not.

Signing up to google money tree is a mistake. A mistake google money tree want you to make. The same way, getting married is a mistake for beatty chadwick, Tiger Wood, and this guy http://wendymcelroy.com/news.php?extend.2758 .

Getting married is a mistake for my high school friend that now cannot go out of marriage despite the fact that she wanted too. It’s a mistake. A mistake that religious bigots want us to make.

There are things that no body would ever normally agree too. But they are presumed to agree anyway to some form of logic. That the agreement is somewhere else that they never read.

I think the same standard that’s applicable to google money tree should be applicable to marriage, LLC, and many other aspects of law.

I just want to make sense of all this. Perhaps we just need a more correct theory. Perhaps libertarian is simply not practical. Perhaps, power, rather than wealth is indeed the real wealth, and well that’s really what the game really is. Libertarian wants power for every individuals over himself. The same way commies want workers to get full value of his productivity. Actually under capitalism, workers do, given that interest rates go lower and lower or even effectively negative due to regulations. It’s just that the workers are now called entrepreneurs, or capitalists, rather than the poor capital owners that just save money on banks.

Well, perhaps we are just bitching. Anybody can bitch. The truly smart is those who see the world the way it really is and be successful. Get rich, yet respected and thanked. Someone like Suharto.

And no wickedfire has the highest percapita income. I will have to resurrect my adwords to affiliate biz, which seems to be what wickedfire is really all about. Need more people working with me. MOAR. I love capitalism. Everyone else works. I make even more. And those people are even more profited because I pay them higher than Indonesian sallary. As long as I make more I pay more.

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There is Always a Way

If a kettle doesn’t have steam holes, then it will explode. The same way, no government can completely abolish freedom. Then those who truly are ambitious will break the kettle.

There are many countries in the world where you cannot be rich honestly and productively. In fact, there is no country in the world where you can do so without some sort of penalty. In US, doing that is punishable by tax, and that’s not much different from (still?) communist countries like China.

But here is the magic, there is no country in the world where you cannot be rich or richer than your peer. Not even in North Korea.

Extermination of Jews is politically incorrect because the Jews have no choice. Yet extermination of political opponents by Stalin, and Mao, which are just as evil, are more politically correct. On the latter, people have a choice, despite a bad one, to simply kowtow to the power elite.

Think about it.

There is always choice. If you think positively and ignore your conscience, you will see that there is always a choice.

There are always a loopholes. Perhaps the purpose of all these censorship is to hide too loopholes so not too many people find it. You don’t have to get married. Forcing everyone to get married first before having sex will be very difficult. But governments ensure that all media information encouraging extra marital alternatives are “dangerous for minor.”

Perhaps the purpose of all sexual norms are there to put land mines across the loopholes so societies can say, ah you made a mistake. But there is always a choice.

Prostitution is illegal, but escort is not. You can’t pay for sex, unless you film it and show to the world (porn is legal). In countries where porn is illegal polygamy is okay, and informal marriage is fine too. In Iran, contract marriage like cohabitation agreement is legal.

So you just declare, every time you’re caught with some women, that you actually have married her informally. Or maybe made some arrangement before hand. In those countries laws are not clear anyway and public perception of moral matters more than whether you actually break the law or not.

In Indonesia, a country with muslim majority, porn is illegal, but sex outside marriage is not except in some small town you can easily avoid. I mean, all our politicians have several informal concubines there is no way they want to mess with that. Cops sometimes go to hotels and caught unmarried couple, but never to expensive 4 stars hotel :D .

Massage therapists often provide “extra” service, and no body care.

Income tax has plenty of loophole for those truly rich. Otherwise, the best and brightest among us will go on strike.

This should get our hope up. Be rich. Be careful. And we’ll get whatever we want without having too fight our society too much.

Oh ya, keep your mouth shut. If the loopholes are known, they will have to close it. That sort of thing. I guess the key for gene pool survival is then to do our best to pick the narrow road to salvation. Jesus would agree.

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3 Ways to Get Womyn

The first and most straight forward way is to rape. That is politically incorrect now.

The second way is to consensually persuade the woman to mate with you. The problem is the world are filled with so many other males. Many are richer, smarter, taller, and more handsome.

Well but Tom Cruise, Bill Gates, and Kobe aim for someone higher than our typical target market. Not really. How do you know they want only one? Chinese emperor got 10k chicks and he didn’t even have flat TV and flush toilet.

The market does give more absolute wealth and prosperity to virtually everyone. If there is one thing the market don’t give to those politically powerful is relative wealth and power. The thing is, that’s what gets men laid.

Another problem is that consensually attracting women are often politically incorrect too. Most societies have so many norms prohibiting so many consensual acts for reasons that will be obvious shortly.

So consensually attracting hot babes is not the only thing most males count on.

The third way is then the most common way, namely to separate target market from competitors.

If target prefer Bob, it’s wrong because it’s not love. If target pick Hasan then it’s wrong because polygamy is bad. If target pick Liu Chan, then it’s wrong because prostitution is immoral. If target pick Mr. Tanaka then it’s wrong because hentai demean women. If target pick Jean Claude then it’s wrong because inter religious marriage is bad.

The list goes on and on. Women trafficking is illegal despite consent. No sex outside marriage. No sex for cash (but chocolate and flower is okay because it can signal wealth nevertheless in a spendthrift way). No contract marriage, no polyandry, no bullshit. If the male is honest then he’s arrogant.

Each kid need daddy to spend at least 8 hours a day and 20% of his income no matter how wealthy daddy is to ensure rich dad don’t have 1000 kids. No this. No that.

The limit is just imagination. The proof is faith. It’s useless trying to argue with bigots or working too much to comply with all the norms that any competitors would come up. It just won’t work.

Finally, unless the guys is really bad, eventually the girl picks the snobbish holier than thou assholes that want to decide morality for the rest of us . Then it’s sacred and a big OK.

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Some Confusion

http://www.brandeis.edu/projects/fse/Pages/traffickingdebate.html

What I mean by trafficking is consensual trafficking. But as you see from the debate above, some feminists insist that trafficking are made illegal despite consent.

My understanding is that ugly feminists simply do not want to compete with cheaper (and often prettier) women from poorer countries. Moreover, poor males do not want their prettiest girls move to richer countries. It’s like smuggling or immigration or globalization in general. Those who don’t sale don’t want to compete overseas.

It seems that trafficking means non consensual for many (while the consensual one is probably called immigration).

Also what I mean by marriage is state approved sexual relationship. The pattern I see in most countries is if the state approve, it’s called marriage, and if the state doesn’t it’s called “sin”. In muslim countries, for example, polygamy and contract marriage counts as marriage and their states approve that.

I believe no consensual sex should be “approved” more than the other. It’s shouldn’t be up to the state. It should be up to individuals. So if prostitution is taxed, so should marriage. If one is illegal so should the other and via versa. That’s what I mean by destroying marriage. Of course, a better phrase would be as Wendy said it, “Get government out of marriage.” No government in the world, west or east, is in this state as far as I know.

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