The real reason behind that marriage bullshit is rationing females in equal share for everyone.

If I want to fuck a female, as long as the female consent, what’s governments’ business telling me not to?

So what if I pay those females?

However, if I do that, many males, many non alpha males, won’t get laid. So, they make prostitution illegal. Then they make various kind of obviously consensual sex illegal too.

I got a female friend that cannot divorce her husband here in Indonesia. If the women no longer want to engage sex and people force her to stay, that’s rape. Some protection for female.

Homosexuals themselves claim that their ‘condition’ is genetic. You claim otherwise. Are you bucking the homosexual lobby here?

So what if he is? Have you heard of the “strawman” argument? This is starting to look like one.

If you state that it is not genetic, then by implication, it is possible for homosexuals to choose to exit homosexuality and live another lifestyle.

Who cares if it is or isn’t? If it is possible, are you suggesting people shouldn’t have the right to make that choice?

The most likely fact is that there is a combination of factors, but there remains a big “so what?”

Why is it that the homosexual lobby persecutes ex-homosexuals who make those choices?

Are you saying this mythical homosexual lobby you are so frightened of persecutes “ex-homosexuals” who become heterosexuals more than the heterosexual lobby persecutes “ex-heterosexuals” who become homosexuals?

Blimey, Jared:

I should point out, however, that it is not a “victimless crime.” In addition to being against God’s plan of happiness for his children,

What nonsense. This leads into the logical circle that is your chosen deity gave humans the right to make choices but gets really upset if they choose something he doesn’t want them to do…

If your chosen imaginary friend is so victimised by some people choosing to have sex with people of the same gender as themselves, well he (or she) should do something about removing the urge…

it also exposes the homosexual him- or herself to a host of diseases, which are endemic among the homosexual population.

Are you saying that some diseases target homosexuals? Do straight people get STIs? Interestingly lesbians have the lowest incidence of any form of STI in the population – much lower than heterosexual men and women…

Furthermore, its spread weakens the traditional family, and therefore the survival of the species as a whole.

You’ve assumed the “traditional” family is intrinsic to the survival of the species. Over the 20 or so thousand years of human history, what are you calling the traditional family? I suspect it is something far from “traditional” in any real sense of the word…

As an aside, homosexuality can be inheritable without causing extinction.

While I’m not aware of anyone actually being arrested in violation of anti-sodomy laws, I do think that they serve a useful instructive purpose, in terms of helping to dictate public standards. And I’m dismayed that the public airwaves are used so often to promote the homosexual agenda, which I believe is contrary to any nation’s best interests — as the European nations, it seems, are discovering.

True that! Likewise, I don’t have as much of a problem with homosexuals who don’t want to rewrite the law, such that it defines a homosexual relationship as marriage. ^.^

However, I don’t see problem with Christians that only tell that homosexuality is sin without promoting jail sentence for them.

On the face of it, it does seem weird that promiscuity would lead to a declining population. But then, raising a human child is an extremely taxing endeavor, one which a family including both a mother and a fatherf is best able to carry out. The promiscuous are promiscuous because they want to avoid responsibility, not because they want to assume more of it than a monogamous couple! And while some homosexuals may want to raise kids, they certainly aren’t making any themselves!

Mark Steyn reports in America Alone that when an audience of Russian women saw Silent Scream, a film which shows an abortion in graphic detail, they were impressed with the modern facilities and asked how they could get an American-style abortion. I highly recommend this book, as it describes the European crisis in detail, with plenty of citations and external references.

If you’re most concerned with how religion impacts the gene pool, perhaps you should take a look at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. They’re very strongly against promiscuity and homosexuality, and very much in favor of traditional families. They’re the complete opposite of contemporary European secularism — and they’re having a ton of kids. ^.^